Wet night. Wet weekend.

Rain is moving into the Salem area and it’s going to be a damp evening. 

No fancy graphics tonight, but keep your eyes peeled for a nice detailed updated tomorrow morning/early afternoon.  I’m sure you have heard more rumors of snow, and there’s a lot to cover, and there’s a lot of possibilities.  Just know that Monday through Thursday of next week look very chilly and very wet, and there is a decent chance we see some sort of snowfall.

Again stay tuned for a nice updated tomorrow!

Oh and one more thing…   The Cascade passes and the Gorge will be very snowy pretty much now through uhhhh well for a long time, so be prepared when traveling in those parts.

More February cold

Feb 18


Highlights

We have two main storms coming in over the next 6 days.  The first will bring showers as early as Tuesday afternoon and will last through Wednesday night.  We are dry Thursday and most of Friday before storm number two rolls in Friday evening.  Cold showers will dominate both Saturday & Sunday.


Details

Wednesday:  Cool and showery.  Some showers will be heavy and could contain hail or ice pellets.  Snow levels around 1500’ with 7 – 12 new inches of snow for the Cascades.

Thursday:  Dry

Friday:  Dry with evening rain.

Saturday & Sunday:  Cold & showery.  Basically a near repeat of Wednesday’s weather.  Very low snow levels with another 10 to 16″ of snow above 2000′ and up to 5″ above 1000′.

Bottom line:  Colder than normal temps continue with lots of mountain snow.  Expect snow even in the Coast Range at times Wednesday, Saturday, and Sunday mornings.

Snowy mountains

The Cascades

It’s slow going up on the mountain today based off of the web cams.  Steady snow has been falling up there all day long and will continue into the night.  Here’s how it looked a little after 1pm today.  Very slow going with lots of people chaining up which I applaud as slow driving and good traction are essential in conditions like this if you wish to arrive at your destination safely. 

Looking ahead I see Sunday afternoon through Monday evening as the best time to travel if you have a choice.  Tuesday – Thursday will be snowy as a very cold storm dives in from the NW bringing large amounts of snow down to at least 2000′. 

Snowy Cascades

Huge week coming for the Cascades with 3 to 7 feet of new snow above 2500’ by the time we reach next Sunday.  This will dramatically improve snowpack levels.  I see no good day to travel over the Cascade passes this week, so if you’re headed over there just keep in mind conditions will be very poor and chains or traction tires will be a necessity.

Snow levels will rise briefly to around 2000’ through Monday evening before coming back down to 1500’ (maybe lower) Tuesday. 

Wednesday and the rest of the week:  Snow levels will fluctuate between near the valley floor and 2000’.  We are staying in this cold weather pattern for the foreseeable future.

The Coast Range will be in and out of the heavy wet snow zone for much of the week.  Best travel day looks to be Monday.  Tuesday & Wednesday in particular look to be the snowiest/ most treacherous. 

Here’s a link to the road cams all across Oregon.  A great tool for keeping tabs on the latest weather conditions.

https://tripcheck.com/Pages/Road-Conditions?curRegion=0

Snow & forecast update

Who got snow and who didn’t…

As always “the devil is in the details” lol…  It looks like the east side of the valley did in fact do slightly better in terms of snowfall (and they could get more), especially considering Salem has nothing still.  The Coast is the biggest winner so far with many locations north of Lincoln City receiving 1 to 4 inches of snow.  Even down to sea level!!  This pic of highway 101 near Seaside from earlier really shows the winter wonderland over there.

Seaside snow 2.4

Since Salem once again missed out on the snow I thought I would share this collection of pics from locations around the region to help ease the pain 😉

*The pic with the red truck was taken along at the coast near Astoria, the beach pic is Haystack Rock, the ruler pic is from Cannon Beach, & the snowy house is from Washougal.*

ENJOY!

 

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A quick recap of our “storm” so far

The Good

Cold air aloft had little trouble making it here.  I understand it’s not crazy cold down here in the valley, but you don’t have to travel far to find temps below freezing. 

Here are the temps around the northwest as of noon.  A very chilly air mass!!  Look at Seattle still in the mid 20s!  That’s some cold arctic air just to our north!

noon temps 2.4 

The forecast for the coast and Coast Range worked out very well with all those areas receiving snow and in some places a bit of it. 

Forecast for the east side of the valley went okay.  Not as much snow as I predicted, but in general east side locations like Stayton and Scio all ended up with a dusting which is more than Salem got, so I’m giving myself a passing grade on this part of the forecast.

The bad and the ugly

Not enough moisture.  Many of the weather models and consequently myself overestimated the amount of precip that would make it into the valley.  If you want snow in a pattern like this then you need heavy or steady precip to literally help “pull the cold air down.”  Yes, that’s actually a real thing as steady precip often times forces & brings cold air down with it from higher up.  This is exactly what happened at the coast which is why they ended up with snow and we didn’t.  I banked my forecast on at least a few more showers making it over the Coast Range and that did not happen. 😦


So what’s ahead?

A weak band of precip will slide primarily along the east side of the valley producing snow in the air.  Snow will not stick due to the “heating of the day,” but if the precip can stick around into the evening hours than locations like Silverton, Canby, Molalla, Scio, and Stayton/Sublimity could all see a dusting of snow. Emphasis on no more than a dusting as I don’t see a lot of moisture to work with, plus we are several degrees above freezing currently.

Possible game changers
  • Depending on where the precip band shifts we could see no snow even in the air or more snow if it moves close to us.
  • If moisture is heavier than forecast we could end up with a nice snowy night tonight.

Looking further ahead

Tuesday – Thursday:  Vast majority of this time will be dry.  A light rain or snow shower is possible Tuesday afternoon & evening, but that’s it.  Partly cloudy skies should rule the day.  Just keep in mind it’s going to be chilly.

Friday – Sunday:  Closely watching for a better opportunity for widespread and possibly significant snowfall.  None of this hit or miss weak shower stuff.  More to come on this potential tonight or tomorrow.

 

 

 

Sunday morning update

Big time forecast right here with a lot to cover, so let’s get down to it!!  Highlights first and then the extra details.

Feb 3

Highlights

Today:  Showers much of the day with snow levels around 500’ – 1000’.

Tonight.  Snow level drops down to the valley floor.

Monday:  Snow showers throughout the day with highs in the mid to upper 30s.  Everyone should at least have a coating of snow with a few inches very possible for those of you around 500’ or higher.  A cold day for sure!

Tuesday:  Very light snow early on turning partly cloudy in the afternoon.  Highs will be close to 40°.

Wednesday:  Cold & dry.

Thursday – Saturday:  More opportunities for snow as both cold air and moisture come together right over our area.  More on that another day, for now you just know that this cold and potentially snowy weather is going to continue for a while.


Details, and lots of them 😉

I’m watching very closely our temps both at the surface and up above to help determine our chances for sticking snow on the valley floor.  It seems likely that we all see at least a coating of snow with the higher hills around town picking up 1 – 3 inches through Monday evening.  Keep in mind that it’s possible our roads stay mostly clear even if we get a little coating of snow as it’s hard for snow to really stick to pavement when it’s only 32/33° especially during the daylight hours.  If we stay just a couple degrees colder than what I’m thinking and or if there ends up being more moisture then we could easily see more snowfall.

Monday night into early Tuesday a band of light precipitation will likely drop another dusting of snow for just about all of us.

I continue to believe that the east side of the Willamette Valley will see higher snow totals these next few days as the moisture and snow showers sort of “backs up” against the foothills of the Cascades.

Beyond Tuesday there are three things popping out at me.  One is the nice dry break in the weather Tuesday afternoon through Wednesday night.  Second thing is the consistency in the weather models showing more opportunities for snow starting Thursday and lasting through next Sunday.  In fact I have fairly high confidence we see even more snow during that second half of the week than we see these next few days!

The third thing is perhaps the most interesting thing to me.  Starting today it appears as though we will be entering into a near historic cold spell.  Not historic because of how cold it will be, but historic due to the sheer length of time I expect the colder than average weather to last.  I understand this could change, but I have to say that in all my experience forecasting weather I have rarely seen this much agreement between models for the extended period which leads me to believe this colder pattern is going to last quite a while.  Naturally one would expect increased chances for snow with such a cold pattern, and that’s exactly what I’m seeing.  In fact I see numerous opportunities for snow over the next couple of weeks.  So like it or not, it’s quite possible we are in for a very prolonged February cold spell!!


The Coast, Coast Range, & Cascades

Snow should fall to sea level Sunday night and Monday.  This pattern also favors snow along the coast.  The Coast Range will be very snowy with 4 to 8 inches expected now through Tuesday, and the Cascades will of course be snowy as well with 6 to 12 inches up there over the next 3 days.


Some fun “do it yourself” forecasting tools for predicting snow

You may want to keep an eye on these maps as they are some of the best indicators as to whether or not we will have snow.  I don’t think I’ve had links like this so hopefully they work 😉

This first map shows temps in Celsius at roughly the elevation of Santiam pass (about 4,800′).  When winds are out of the south or from the west (onshore winds) we generally want to see at least -6° or colder in order to see sticking snow to the valley floor.  “Warmer” temps can do the trick just fine if and only if: 1.)   the precip is heavy enough,  2.)  the winds are very light or calm, or 3.)   if winds are out of the north or east like the cold winds out of the Gorge.  Basically as long as we are on the blue side of the lines.

This second map shows temps in Celsius at about 2500′ in elevation.  If you are rooting for snow than all we typically need is to be somewhere in the blue.  It’s better to be at -2°C or colder, but even 0°C at this elevation can do the trick if precip is heavy enough or if the winds are light or calm or from the north or east.

 

 

 

Cool & wet

jan 15

Details

Wednesday is going to be a chilly day with showers at times and temps only in the upper 30s to low 40s.  Thursday will be wet with periods of rain.  Same goes for Friday.

Now if you recall in my last update I mentioned there was a chance Saturday could end up mostly dry.  After viewing the latest forecast maps it appears that chance is just about gone.  I guess that’s how it goes sometimes.  Anyway, it’s now looking quite wet Saturday and much of Sunday with a shower or two leftover on Monday.  Tuesday & Wednesday should be dry.


The Gorge

The east winds have been raging at the western end of the gorge and in the Portland metro area.  Those east winds continue through much of Thursday.  Light snow and some freezing rain is likely in the gorge along I-84 Wednesday evening and Thursday before “warming up” above freezing late in the day Thursday and more so by Friday morning.


The Cascades

14 to 20 inches of new snow is on the way above 4000’ Wednesday night through Monday.  Up to 6 inches is possible as low as 2000’ by Monday morning.  This means snowy travel conditions for several days.

And there you have it.  Nothing real exciting for now, but as always stay tuned for the latest changes and updates!!!